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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung! Yes!
(Welcome representatives.)
Controversy is heating up after Mr. Trump became the President-elect.
- It's funny. - There's a rumor going around...
that Mr. Trump was actually born in Pakistan.
People are saying...
- Really? - Why are you happy?
A picture of a kid with blonde hair is going viral on the internet.
People are saying he's actually Donald Trump...
and that he's from Pakistan. They look alike, right?
When he said "I love Pakistan" in the past,
nobody believed him.
We love Pakistan.
I love Pakistan.
See? He's actually from Pakistan.
But he used to speak ill of Muslims though.
This doesn't make any sense.
I know the rumor doesn't make any sense.
To be the president of the US,
one must be an American citizen since birth.
It was controversial.
- It's only a rumor. - What do they say in Pakistan?
Pakistan...
Congratulations.
It was reported on "Neo News" once.
They say he was born in the Waziristan area.
He lost his parents in a car accident when he was nine,
and apparently he moved to England.
They say he was adopted to the Trump family in England.
That's how he became Trump since then.
What's his real name?
They say his real name is Dawood Khan.
Dawood Khan?
Pakistani people say...
London's mayor is from Pakistan, and so is the American president now!
Do people in Pakistan believe this?
It's not a matter of whether they believe it or not.
They seem to think this a fun story.
The issue is almost nonexistent in the US media.
It's only talked about in Pakistan.
Pakistani people on Facebook are crazy about it.
It's ironic. When Obama was a candidate,
he was also rumored to be born outside the States,
Trump was the source of the rumor.
Trump kept arguing that Obama was born outside the States,
and that he's not qualified to be a candidate.
They are the true witnesses of the American dream.
If the rumors are true, that is.
Rumors are nothing in other countries, though.
Greek had a bail-out negotiation last year.
Merkel wasn't very welcome back then.
That's why there were rumors.
Rumors said Merkel is Hitler's daughter.
They even explained everything.
A spy had Hitler's frozen sperm,
and took that to Russia.
Their ages don't match.
- Frozen sperm? - So Merkel was born from artificial insemination.
German people just laughed at the rumors.
- Do you believe it, Niklas? - I don't.
Right.
Are there more strange rumors about leaders in other countries?
There's a rumor that Chancellor Renzi...
has something with Michelle Obama.
- What? - There's a reason.
Renzi visited the White House last October.
When Obama wasn't looking,
he hugged Michelle,
and nearly touched her hip.
- What? - Is there evidence?
- His hand was very close to her hip. - Really?
That's why there were rumors, but of course people don't believe it now.
When Berlusconi was the chancellor,
most of rumors around him turned out to be true.
For example, there were rumors that he would party,
and meet with underage girls.
Everyone didn't believe them.
But the rumors were true.
That's why people didn't trust him.
Because rumors about Berlusconi turned out to be true.
In our country, people don't want to
believe bad rumors about the country. It's almost our gut reaction.
They think the country will be in chaos if they trust rumors.
Chinese people are naive.
Are there tabloids in China?
- A tabloid reporting rumors. - Yes, there are.
Sometimes restricted caller IDs will talk badly about the Communist Party.
But we end the call right away.
We think that we shouldn't listen to them.
Isn't that voice phishing?
Is this like a phone tabloid?
Yes, we just get sudden calls.
You have to listen to what I say.
- The Communist Party is bad. - I see.
When people hear rumors in Mexico,
they believe it right away.
- That's the complete opposite of China. - They start believing them.
- They think it's true. - Let's trust the rumors first.
The rumored people...
then have to clarify...
that the rumors aren't true.
For example, rumor says someone is dead.
Then the person has to write "I'm not dead" on his social media account.
A while ago, rumors said...
the drug king Joaquín Guzmán escaped prison.
The Secretary of Interior uploaded on social media...
a photo of Guzmán still in prison.
He had to prove and explain to people.
Do you have any rumors you would like to clarify?
- Explain these rumors aren't true. - Here's your chance, Jun Hyun-moo.
Most of my rumors are true.
(Clapping)
- You're honest. - Yes.
You're cool.
You seem so cool for the first time.
(Cheering)
Recently, I'm nicknamed as the Swiss millionaire here.
- You are. - You are.
No, that is just a joke.
(You are rich.)
That is true.
It's not right to think...
that all Swiss are rich.
Also, I may seem rich because I lived overseas since I was young...
and that may make me seem rich.
- Actually, it's not... - So you're rich in experience?
(Rich in experience instead of money?)
That experience requires money.
People call me Meat-Guillaume.
I actually eat vegetables, too.
He doesn't only eat meat.
He eats a lot of meat and vegetables. He's a big eater.
In our culture, we marry young.
In my hometown, I'm already married.
That's the rumor about me.
- I saw that too. - People think I'm married.
On what cause? They base that on your face?
I don't know.
Were you away last week to see your family?
Was it to see your family?
My mom called me to ask if I was married a couple of times.
Tell me if you're married.
Some say I even have a kid.
Did you go to get a kindergarten admission?
- How is the baby? - That's not it.
When I went to language school before,
I was really curious about Korean clubs.
So I went to clubs with my friends.
The other students spread rumors about that.
They said I'm a heavy drinker and go to clubs every night.
- That was so unfair. - Because you only went once a week?
I would go to internet cafes with friends,
and play Starcraft or Overwatch.
I don't like clubs, but rumors said I like them.
I still haven't been to a club in this life.
- This life? - Yes.
Did you go there in your past life?
I think people were jealous since you're handsome.
- That's right. - He has that look.
He looks like someone who goes to clubs.
You look like someone with a kid.
- This face likes meat. - I understand why people made those rumors.
- There's a millionaire's face. - Quite true.
Your face says it all.
(What about me?)
Now, this is the trustworthy Non Summit Meeting.
Let's begin the discussion.
We will listen to various opinions on issues that each representative would like to discuss.
We discuss all global issues.
Global Side Dishes Time.
This matter is from the US representative Mark.
Singer songwriter Bob Dylan was nominated...
as the Nobel Prize winner today.
(A singer songwriter representing the States)
(He is a symbolic figure in human rights movement and controversy.)
How many ears must one man have before he can hear people cry?
(Bob Dylans sings poems for the ears.)
His whereabouts were unknown since he was nominated.
He acknowledged and said that he would accept the prize,
but he would not attend the ceremony due to a previous appointment.
I would like to discuss this matter.
Some people are angry and say his nomination should be canceled.
Some say that he's brave,
and continue to support him.
What do you think?
He should be awarded regardless of his participation.
Or, only participants should be awarded.
Please press the button if you think he should be awarded. Press in 1, 2, 3.
He should be awarded.
Wang Xinlin says no.
Alex says no.
I knew it, Alex.
I think...
the Nobel Prize has a lot of prestige.
If he can't attend for some unknown reason, I can't comprehend that.
If he can't attend,
then he should stay as a nominee.
Many people wish to receive that award,
I think awarding someone who doesn't attend the ceremony...
is very unfair.
- Isn't that more unfair? - That's not it.
The prize should be awarded regardless of participation.
It should be awarded for good deeds.
He should have his reasons for not attending.
He said he has a previous appointment.
He's being awarded because he's qualified.
I'm against it because I think it's like a graduation ceremony.
I get to graduate because I'm qualified.
The graduation ceremony is just a celebration, right?
Even if you don't attend the ceremony, you still get your degree, right?
You're right.
From the perspective of someone hosting the ceremony,
if no one attends the ceremony, it feels like no one cares about it.
Consider the money and energy the people put into preparing for the ceremony.
We need to remember all the effort they put into that.
If you don't come, they would feel like they put in all that energy for nothing.
- Hold on. - Let's think of this from another angle.
If you only award degrees to people who are attending,
then the ceremony itself could be used as a promotional event.
For example, instead of awarding those who deserve it,
they may give out the awards to famous people instead.
- Alberto, you've got it in the wrong order. - This could happen.
If the first place winner can attend, of course, you'd award the first place winner.
If the first place winner can't come, you should award the second place holder.
People have to come for it to be a ceremony.
In the end, you might be awarding someone who is less deserving.
That could happen.
Xinlin, I have a question for you.
This actually happened,
they awarded the Nobel Prize to someone who was in jail.
The recipient is in jail, so he couldn't attend, right?
What do we do in that case? Can't we give it to him?
In the case of Nobel Prizes,
they give it out posthumously as well. Even after they die.
- They give out the award like that, so wouldn't that be a similar case?
This became a controversy because Bob Dylan,
did not reveal the nature of his prior engagement.
They were worried he just said no because he didn't want to come.
Unless it's because he doesn't want to attend,
Think about his age.
He could refuse to tell people because of privacy.
- He might not have wanted to go. - I think of this the other way round.
For an important awards ceremony like the Nobel Prize,
I think the recipient must publicly explain why he wouldn't attend.
Why does he have to give a reason for not attending?
Let's say for example Bob Dylan said,
"I just feel that the Nobel Prize..."
- "is not something that I think is good." If he said that, is that okay? - Right.
I think that is a cooler answer.
- That's better. - Yes, it is.
A ceremony is something that draws in a lot of people.
That's how an awards ceremony gains prestige.
If no one cares about an awards ceremony, than it is a failure.
I don't think people will stop caring about...
the Nobel Prize awarding ceremony because Bob Dylan didn't show up.
They don't need the publicity.
People will always be interested in the Nobel Prize.
Then why are we debating about the Nobel Prize on this show?
We're debating about the Nobel Prize because it's the most influential award.
That's why prestige and influence is important for an awards ceremony.
It is very important.
Oogi, could you give us a rebuttal to that argument?
Don't just sit there.
Aren't you too friendly with him?
(Colleagues on Non Summit)
An award is...
Let's say, I wanted to give an award to Xinlin.
And let's say I believe that he needs to be awarded this.
It feels like you're saying, I gave you an award, you have to give me something.
"You have to come no matter what because I'm giving you an award."
But by coming I can also be promoting your awards ceremony.
I might not want to go though.
Then, I can just give the award to someone else. There's a lot of people.
- Wang Xinlin. - The ceremony has already started.
If JTBC had an Entertainment Awards Show, and you received the Newcomers Award.
But you had a prior engagement with your mom, can we give it to Oogi?
Of course.
Really? Okay.
- Thank you. - He said he would go.
Can we give it to Zhang Yu'an?
(Thinking)
(His consistency is shaken after he hears Zhang Yu'an's name.)
"The shining Chinese representative for Non Summit Meeting is...
between Zhang Yu'an and Wang Xinlin.
- Due to a prior engagement with his mom... - I will go.
Even though it's your mother's birthday?
I'll ask her to wait.
We can tell that Bob Dylan is not looking down...
or hates the Nobel Prize.
He said this to the Nobel Prize committee,
"I will come to the Nobel Prize committee and give a lecture."
That's what he said.
He doesn't hate or disrespects the Nobel Prize in any way.
Okay. This also happens at film awards as well.
There were many times when actors and actresses did not show up, right?
The most popular film award ceremony in India's Bollywood is...
the Filmfare Awards.
However, back in 1996 the main character in the film, "Three Idiots", Aamir Khan,
filmed a very good movie.
He believed that he would win, so he attended.
The best actor award goes to...
Shah Rukh Khan, not Aamir Khan.
He was hurt because of that.
He criticized the awards ceremony like this,
"The Filmfare Awards ceremony only awards actors who dance or..."
"gives money to the awards show."
So from that point on, he has never attended this particular awards ceremony.
He must have been very upset.
It was understandable as to why Leonardo DiCaprio...
was upset, but he still attended, right?
Yes, he did.
(He was a finalist four times at the Academy Awards, but he never won.)
(His fifth time as a finalist for the Best Actor award.)
(Leonardo DiCaprio finally won after 22 years.)
(I thank you all for this amazing award tonight.)
(Let us not take this planet for granted.)
(I do not take tonight for granted. Thank you so very much.)
The Academy Awards became controversial because of a different reason this year...
and a lot of actors did not attend.
All the finalists for the supporting actors and actress awards were white.
Since all the finalist are all white,
People felt it was racial discrimination.
Several black directors, actors and actresses...
boycotted the Academy Awards, and told them that they would not attend.
(Spike Lee, Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith refused to attend.)
(I think that I have to protect...)
(and fight for the ideals that make our country...)
(and make our Hollywood community great.)
He made a hash tag.
It was, "OscarsSoWhite".
- It was a very popular movement. - He created that hash tag.
What made it even more interesting was the fact that the host...
- was black. - Chris Rock.
Yes, Chris Rock. He made a very witty remark at the awards show.
"I was afraid that a white person would take this job, if I didn't do it."
That was very witty.
(Well, I'm here at the Academy Awards.)
(Otherwise known as the White People's Choice Awards.)
(If they nominated host, I wouldn't even get this job.)
(You would all be watching Neil Patrick Harris right now.)
(That's a refreshing remark.)
In China we have a saying, "A celebrity's time is money."
That's why, before an awards show begins,
the celebrity is given a phone call as to whether they won or not.
If they don't win, they don't even go.
That's why at the 2015 Huading Awards,
five of the finalists for the best actress awards didn't attend.
That's why at the awards ceremony, they gave it to another actress.
They next edited the list of finalists,
and added the name of the winner of the award.
What did she say during her acceptance speech?
It was something like, "I am deeply honored. Thank you."
"I made time for this awards show. It's an honor."
"I didn't know that the other actresses would be too busy to show up."
"I'd like to thank the five actresses for not showing up."
An iconic singer in Mexico...
called Juan Gabriel passed away this year.
When he passed away, everyone in Mexico mourned his death.
At the 2016 Latin Grammy Awards...
Juan Gabriel was named a finalist for album of the year.
A Spanish group went up and announced the winner.
They said, "The winner is Juan Gabriel."
They didn't realize he had died, so they kept waiting for him to come up.
They turned on the music and waited.
After a while, they went up to the microphone and said, "I don't think he's here."
"We'd like to congratulate you once again."
"And we'll send you the award separately."
Then, they walked out.
The people were so embarrassed.
- The mood became very uncomfortable. - Exactly, they should have told them.
(The Album of the Year goes to Juan Gabriel.)
(I guess he's not here.)
(We'd like to congratulate you once again and we'll send you the award separately.)
I heard there was an awards ceremony in the US, that you can't attend.
In the US, we have something called the Darwin Awards.
The Darwin Awards is...
awarded to people who have died in an extraordinarily idiotic manner.
For example, there was a person who was heading out to attend a protest...
that was against forcing people on motorbikes to wear a helmet.
The person was riding on a bike without a helmet and then got into an accident.
- The person had a concussion and died. - Really?
There was a lawyer in Toronto...
who wanted to show off how sturdy the windows were on the 24th floor,
so he charged towards it...
- and fell out of the 24th floor. He died. - Gosh.
Darwin is all about genes, and through their death...
they have contributed to human evolution...
by taking themselves out of the gene pool.
However since they are making fun of people who died,
it does get criticized a lot.
But since they awarding people who didn't adhere to safety rules,
it feels like they are warning other people about taking risky actions.
People do think that it is helpful.
I don't think it is helpful.
- Right. - It's not right to make fun of people who died.
Bob Dylan's refusal to attend the ceremony for the Nobel Price for literature...
was controversial, but whether he was deserving was also a controversy.
Bob Dylan's lyrics are filled with themes of freedom and resistance...
and it is a 20th century masterpiece.
"Do you think songs should be considered literature?"
There have been various opinions about this.
Let's hear your opinions on this.
Songs should be considered literature, so he deserves to be awarded.
If you agree, please raise your hand.
- In 1, 2, 3. - In 1, 2 and 3.
- Zahid and Alberto haven't raised their hands. - Alberto,
and Oogi haven't raised their hands either.
When you think of literature,
we don't consider songs as literature, right?
- No, we do. - You do?
So, you're saying it should be awarded for literary works?
There's something I'd like to tell Oogi, among the many people who have won...
this award, there are a lot of poets and fiction writers as well.
That's why, songs should be considered poetry.
- When you think of literature... - Oogi...
- Lyrics are also poems. - That's right.
- That's why he got the prize. - That will make...
the scope of literature too broad.
They even made a book...
- by compiling Bob Dylan's lyrics. - Right.
The book is called "The Songs of Bob Dylan".
The reason he got the Nobel Prize is not because of his singing...
- or because he is a singer, - I see.
- but the lyrics he wrote, - Right.
- which was published into a book. - It's just...
- Because of the expressions in them. - I'd get it if they...
gave him a culture prize.
- But I don't get he got the literature prize. - I agree.
It might be considered inappropriate for those who pursue...
- pure literature. - They might feel...
- unrewarded. - That's right.
- There's a Japanese novelist called Haruki Murakami. - Yes.
In 2006, he received the Franz Kafka Prize in the Czech Republic...
for his book named "Kafka on the Shore."
From then, the Japanese people got their hopes up,
because both the recipients of the Kafka Prize...
in 2004 and 2005 were awarded the Nobel Prize.
- I see. - So we thought he would get the Nobel Prize this time.
But he haven't received it for 10 years.
There's a writer named Jodi Picoult, who wrote "My Sister's Keeper".
She said "If Bob Dylan gets the Nobel Prize,"
"I should get a Grammy."
- I see. - She said that.
Zahid, there used to be so many poets, but there are not many of them today.
Everyone who has a poetic mind...
writes lyrics these days.
- You've got to acknowledge that. - I mean...
I think we should acknowledge the lyrics.
- But I don't understand they give the literature prize for that. - Right.
Aurélien wants to get the literature prize for his electronic music.
You wanted Bob Dylan to get it first.
- I see. - How about electronic music?
(Beeping)
This must be very inspiring.
I totally disagree with Oogi. I think lyrics are surely a genre of literature.
- I see. - I thinks lyrics are literature,
but I don't think Bob Dylan deserves the prize.
Is that your personal opinion?
Of course Bob Dylan wrote great lyrics,
but most of the songs with good lyrics...
were popular 50 or 60 years ago.
You say his songs are not popular these days,
but the Nobel Prizes in Chemistry or other science fields...
- are always awarded 20 or 30 years later from the achievement. - Right.
So even though his songs are not popular anymore,
he had so much impact in those days.
He had a strong impact on the anti-war movements...
and civil rights movements.
Then one might wonder, "Why didn't they give the prize to John Lennon?"
- They could have. - They just chose one.
- And I think... - You just don't like him.
- It's not that. - That's the reason.
- That's why you're against it. - No one here knows more Bob Dylan's songs than me.
But there are many lyricists so much better than him.
- I see. - There's Leonard Cohen,
Tom Waits, or Lou Reed.
So I think they gave him the prize just for the publicity.
- I see. - I want to ask this to Si-kyung.
As a singer, do you think lyricists deserve the literature prize?
It depends on how the lyrics are.
When I look at the lyrics of old Korean folk songs...
or foreign singers in the old days,
- That's right. - I can hardly find a song that doesn't have a message.
Just reading the lyrics without the music, I'd get tears in my eyes.
- I'm so moved by the lyrics. - There were singers like Lee Moon-sae.
So if you ask me whether lyricists should be perceived as writers,
- I would totally say yes. - Se-yoon, you write lyrics too.
I have a slightly different opinion. I think Bob Dylan's music played a part.
- I see. - Just reading the text...
- feels so much different from reading it with a background music . - Right.
I think that must have had an influence.
Is there a Nobel Prize recipient in your country who caused a stir like Bob Dylan?
In 2009, when President Obama received...
the Novel Peace Prize, it caused much controversy.
He received the Prize less than two weeks after he became the president.
Some people criticized it was too early to give him the prize.
The Nobel Committee explained that...
they gave the prize to support the efforts Obama would make in the future.
Then writers could get the prize for their future pieces.
- Right? - They said that was the reason.
- Like you said, their explanation also got criticized a lot. - I see.
- It's not a prize for supporting people. - Yes.
It's certainly not.
In France, they gave the prize to Sartre in 1964.
- Sartre. - I see.
Jean-Paul Sartre.
He was chosen as the recipient.
But Sartre thought he should not be incorporated into an institution or a system.
So he refused to receive the prize. But some people criticized...
he would not receive the prize...
because his rival Albert Camus got it first.
They said that must have hurt his pride.
- They said that. - "Why did you give it to Camus first?"
- Yes. - In Germany, there's a chemist named Fritz Haber...
who invented a method of synthesizing ammonia.
He also invented toxic gas during the First World War.
- I see. - It was not just that. Fritz Haber was a Jew,
but the Nazis made a new kind of toxic gas...
based on the gas he made, which was used for slaughtering the Jews.
Because of that, although he received such a prominent prize,
- he was criticized for the bad deeds he'd done. - I see.
They teach the German students that he was a murderer.
Einstein made so many amazing discoveries, right?
You would think that...
he received so many Nobel Prizes.
Actually, he only got one Nobel Prize.
- Like Haber, Einstein was a Jew. - He was also a Jew.
Some people said that was the reason he didn't get many prizes.
He was finally awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1922.
But it was not for his most famous achievement, the principle of relativity.
It was something that people rarely know about.
- I know. - It was for the photoelectric effect. You know that?
Would you explain what the photoelectric effect is?
- It is... - It's called the photoelectric effect.
- What is it about? - Right.
- It's what Alex just talked about. - It's the photoelectric effect.
- What is it? - You don't know what it is, do you?
(He only knows the name.)
- You want me to explain it to you? - You can't?
I don't know about that.
(It's the production of electrons when light is shone onto a material.)
One of the important things of the award ceremony is the acceptance speech.
I believe Hyun-moo said at a ceremony,
"I'll be a loyal dog to MBC."
(He said it at 2014 MBC Entertainment Awards.)
He said he would be a loyal dog.
I'd be a loyal Shih Tzu.
He said "I would bark or lie down at your command."
I'm embarrassed even saying this.
(It's embarrassing to even say this.)
You desperately wanted to make people laugh.
- When you receive a prize, - You got so emotional.
you get so emotional at the spot.
You would say anything there.
I actually regretted it while I was saying it.
- As I was saying, I thought "I shouldn't say this." - When you said "loyal"...
And then, while I was saying "dog", I regretted it.
- I really regretted it. - You didn't know until you got the prize?
- You didn't know you'd get it? - I had no idea.
- So you didn't prepare for it. - I always...
go to the ceremonies even though I get no prize.
You should prepare for it from now on.
I already wrote three speeches.
- You shouldn't. - I will use them in turn.
It's really strange.
- You're at the ceremony with zero expectation, - Right.
but there's the drum sound and they zoom in on your face.
(It gets nervous when they announce it.)
- You have to show a reaction you know nothing about. - Right.
(The Best Male Entertainer at the 51st Paeksang Arts Awards)
(Yoo Se-yoon, Sung Si-kyung, and Jun Hyun-moo were there.)
(They were all nominated for the prize.)
(I thought it was me.)
The worst thing is that you don't know who would get it.
When they say, "The Best Entertainer of the entertainment awards goes to..."
the camera guy sits in front of me.
- I see. - "It must be me."
(I must be the recipient this year.)
"What should I say? Should I say I'd be a loyal dog?"
You're thinking about that, and then they say, "Sung Si-kyung!"
The camera was there to capture my reaction.
He was just there to film how I reacted when Si-kyung got it, but I misread it.
- What do you do when they say other person's name? - It feels awkward.
(He congratulates the other person while feeling awkward.)
I really hope that it would be more natural...
when they invite the network executives.
They always say "Yes. You are very beautiful."
Right. There are always the network presidents awarding the grand prize.
"You also look good, President."
- Right. - Should we announce it now?
It sounds so awkward.
They could make it more natural, like having a conversation.
"I like your dress very much."
"You look so good tonight too, President."
"Yes. Thank you."
(So funny)
They sometimes miss the lines.
- "Yes. Thank you." - You have to show them what line it is.
(Presidents are so nervous at the ceremonies.)
- Shall we talk about famous acceptance speeches or performances? - It's so funny.
There's a music channel like Mnet...
in Mexico too. It's called "TeleHit".
The channel created an awards show.
They awarded a prize to a female singer.
After receiving the prize and having a performance, she shouted on the microphone,
"I love you, MTV."
(She shouted the other name.)
- It's unbelievable. - She realized she made a mistake and said,
"MTV's bad. Telehit is the best!"
But it was already too late.
(I love you,)
(MTV!)
(Goodness.)
(They're bad. Telehit is the best!)
(What did I just say?)
My goodness.
It's like you say you'd be the loyal dog to JTBC at thee MBC ceremony.
- That's right. - Wow.
- It must have been so embarrassing. - It must.
- Everyone must have felt so awkward. - There was another incident about MTV.
Taylor Swift was awarded a prize at an MTV awards ceremony,
so she was up on the stage to start her acceptance speech.
- While she was talking, suddenly... - Yes.
Kanye West jumped up on the stage,
took the microphone from her, and said,
- "Beyonce should have got this." - Right.
- Wow. - He said that on the spot?
People were so dumbfounded after that. Taylor Swift looked...
so bewildered. What was funny was Beyonce also looked...
- bewildered as if saying "What is this?" - She should have applauded.
(Hey, Taylor.)
(I'm really happy for you. I'll let you finish.)
(But Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time.)
(My goodness.)
(Booing)
- I was really shocked to see that. - It was a rare scene.
I remember when President Obama was doing something on live television...
- and the camera was right in front of him. - Yes.
He looked into the camera and said, "What a jackass."
After that, he told the reporters not to use that footage.
- But the footage is on the Internet. - I see.
(He is a jackass.)
(President said he was a jackass.)
(All this stuff...)
(I'm assuming all this stuff...)
(Where's the pool?)
(Come on, guys.)
(Cut the President some slack.)
In China, at a ceremony in 2013,
the host liked BIGBANG so much and got so excited...
that he handed the award down on his knees.
- He gave it to BIGBANG? - He gave it to G-Dragon.
- Really? - He was on his knees.
- G-Dragon rub him on the head? - Yes.
- What is the host's name? - Du Haitao.
- Is he a man? - Yes, he is.
- Is it Du Haitao? - Yes.
(The host dropped on his knees.)
(G-Dragon is flustered.)
(He is the king of fashion!)
- What did the Chinese say about it? - It must have been a fuss.
People said, "How could have you given him the award on your knees?"
- I see. - Falling on your knees have an important meaning in your culture, right?
- Right. You would do that to your parents. - I see.
- It must have been awkward for G-Dragon. - Yes, he was.
He just took it awkwardly.
There's one ceremony that everyone still remembers.
- When Roberto Benigni's "Life Is Beautiful"... - Great movie.
was awarded the Academy Award,
- Roberto got so excited that he jumped up on his chair. - Right.
He got up on the stage and told the actress who handed him the award,
"If I could take you home, I would leave this award here."
- Wow. - Italians are so romantic.
- Italians. - And then...
- He found a moment to say that. - He was a saint in the movie.
He flirted during the short time.
- He said, "I'm so happy..." - Wow.
"that I want to kiss every audience here."
He delivered an amazing speech...
- despite his short English. It was amazing. - I see.
(The award goes to Roberto!)
(He got up on his chair.)
(I'm so excited.)
(I want to leave the Oscar here. I just want you.)
(I want to be rocked...)
(by the waves of your beauty.)
(Come here.)
(He's unbelievable.)
(This is a joyous moment.)
(And I want to kiss everybody because...)
(you made me feel such joy.)
(Roberto's outstanding speech is still remembered by many.)
I think Bob Dylan winning the Nobel Prize will change many things.
They would say on the radio, "The next song is by a singer who won the Nobel Prize."
"He won the Nobel Literature Prize."
- It'd be nice. - Isn't it?
We definitely feel the Nobel Prize approached closer to us.
- Yes. - I hope you get the prize someday.
Wow.
"What Is So Important?" continues next week.
Yes.
(Non Summit Meeting)
Let's invite the Korean representative.
From the GPS device, television, and even computer games,
we always hear her voice.
She is the voice that represents Korea.
It's Seo Yu-ri. Come on.
(The 127th Korean representative is Seo Yu-ri.)
(Seo Yu-ri is a voice actress and an entertainer.)
Please introduce yourself.
I see.
I'm a voice actress and entertainer Seo Yu-ri. Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
(Nice to meet you.)
You have such a nice voice. You've worked as a voice actress, right?
Yes, it's been 10 years.
What are your most representative works?
Among animation characters, you know Bulma from "Dragon Ball"?
- You dubbed Bulma? - Yes.
- Show us a little bit. - "Master Roshi, what are you doing?"
(She deserves a round of applause.)
- Wow. - It was her.
I also participated in "League of Legends".
- I know that. - I dubbed two characters of it.
"All the world on one arrow."
(She dubbed Ashe.)
She is an archer. Another one sounds like an angel.
"The tempest is at your command."
- She's great. - If it's not much to ask,
I drive all the time.
- Yes. - Could you do the GPS voice?
- Right. - I see.
I'll listen with my eyes closed.
"Honey, you are on the wrong road."
"I'll find the directions again."
(It would be not bad at all even if you're on the wrong road.)
That was it.
(Satisfied.)
It's not realistic enough. In reality, they would say, "It's not the right road."
(Girlfriend would get irritated.)
"What did I tell you?"
No, they would just do this.
(Sighing)
"Did you just sigh?"
(There's a gap between the device and reality.)
- When I was little, I loved the Bugs Bunny character. - I see.
At that time, one of my dad's friends...
was a voice actor for Bugs Bunny.
One day, I was acting up and wouldn't eat my meal.
My dad got so frustrated, so he called his friend and said,
"Hey, Bugs Bunny, here's a child who wouldn't eat his meal."
"Do you want to talk to him?" And he let me talk to him.
Suddenly, Bugs Bunny was talking to me, "Christian, what's wrong?"
- I was so surprised. - You must have been amazed.
It was really effective because...
- I promised Bugs Bunny that I would eat my meals well. - Wow.
I felt so good. I told my friends the next day,
"My dad knows Bugs Bunny's phone number."
- That also happened to me a lot. - Right.
Then I would say on the phone, "Hello, I'm a Power Ranger."
"Why wouldn't you eat your meal today?"
"You shouldn't be picky."
(Yu-ri's nieces and nephews will never be picky.)
Are there sounds or melodies you are familiar with?
I got familiar with some sounds as I've been living in Korea.
The washing machine would go like...
(Singing)
Does it sound like that?
- Yes. - I see.
- The rice cookers also... - I know which brand it is.
When I heard "Cuckoo" at a friend's house, I thought...
people have cuckoo clocks at home like in Switzerland.
"The rice is cooked."
- That's it. - "Your meal is ready."
I auditioned for it...
- You did? - and I fail.
They held auditions for the voice coming from rice cookers.
- It's such an important feature. - Yes.
- Right, because they sell them worldwide. - Yes.
Korean rice cookers are too chatty.
So I practiced, "Brown Rice,
grains, black rice".
(We hope you pass the next audition.)
- People use iPhones a lot in China. - Yes.
So the basic sounds of iPhone is most familiar.
(Ringing)
His was not similar at all, but I can recognize it.
- It cuts off after three rings. - I don't have many friends,
so no one would call me on some days.
When someone calls me and I hear the sound,
I get excited thinking, "Finally someone is calling me."
Why are you being so sad?
- I really do. - Why do you say that?
After carrying out an experiment for an hour, I look at my phone and see nothing.
I'd just go back to work then.
(Wang Xinlin is lonely. We hope his friends call him.)
This is the 127th Non Summit Meeting. We'll hear Yu-ri's topic now.
- The 127th Non Summit Meeting. - Wow.
The 127th Non Summit Meeting
I will announce today's topic.
She's Miss My Little Television.
The logo would be up there.
When I speak frankly about social issues,
some people would post hateful comments, so I brought this topic.
"I want to say whatever I want to say. Am I abnormal?"
- I see. - Yes.
You've been speaking out a lot?
- She's been frank on the social network sites. - I see.
You let it out frankly, right?
Actually, I'm so familiar with posting at a blog or other online communities.
- I'm so used to that. - I see.
I'm just doing what I've been doing. I haven't changed.
Now that you got famous, you think you should be careful about that?
Sometimes I do.
But when I think I'm not wrong,
- I would just argue with the people on the Internet. - She is really scary.
When people would post hateful comments without any basis,
she collects the comments and saves it up...
- in a hard drive of several terabytes. - I also categorized it by date,
- Goodness. - and by website.
- I've got it arranged in different folders. - I see.
Did you actually sue some of them?
I sued someone lately.
- Really? - Yes. I've never talked about this on television.
- I would take hateful comments if they're not too much. - Of course.
But some people posted pictures of my mother...
added with sexual comments about my mother...
or about my family.
So I sue them. I think the verdict will be in...
when this episode airs.
(We hope it went well.)
All right. Yu-ri brought the topic today.
We'll now begin our debate on this topic.
(The debate begins.)
Please press the button if you think this is abnormal.
Press in 1, 2, 3.
Two of them right next to me pressed.
- Guillaume hesitated. - He thinks we should say whatever we want.
Why do you think that?
When we have people who agrees and who disagrees,
we can hear new opinions and face new ideas.
- Right. - There's an English expression.
"That person has no filter." It means one talks without a filter.
People said the same thing about Trump.
- He's been criticized. - Now he's the president.
- Don't talk about that. - If your words would just hurt others...
- and not help them, you should just hold them in. - Right.
I think it's the wise thing to do.
I agree with Mark. We should all be careful with our words,
but the freedom of speech is a vital right.
So it should be protected well, otherwise people will not speak out,
especially about social issues. If everyone is so careful,
there could be a pressure to not speak out, which is bad.
Xinlin, why do you think she's abnormal?
Recently, I've also seen many hateful comments about me.
There's an old saying in China,
(Wang Xinlin's Chinese Class)
When you point a gun at birds,
the first bird you kill is the wildest one.
- What are you saying? - That's an actual saying.
How wild could a bird get?
You could pour out whatever is on your mind.
But others could think you're just running wild.
I know I misspeak a lot.
So I know how hurtful and dangerous words can get.
What did you misspeak about?
When I was in university, there was a person who I couldn't stand.
Everyone disliked that person.
However, everyone hides their disdain for that student.
I was the only one who showed my dislike for that student.
When you graduate, you take a group photo together, right?
That student said, "I don't want to take a photo with Wang Xinlin.
- The student made me feel like I was at fault. - You were at fault.
You were at fault. Why would you say that?
From the experience,
I learned to just bear it. You just don't have to talk.
- Right. - Well, it doesn't mean you have to keep quiet about everything.
Just keep quiet about things that you shouldn't say.
The thought that I had was...
if you only say nice things because you don't want to hurt someone.
Then you can't trust anybody.
"I don't like the way you are behaving right now."
I could get hurt by that,
but if she tells me later, that I did this well.
Then, I will think that I can trust that person more.
The most important thing is timing.
When you say something good at the wrong time,
then the opposing person won't be able to take it.
Let's say someone came to give me advice,
and I rashly gave that person advice.
That person just wanted someone to listen to them.
We have a saying in Pakistan.
(Think before you speak.)
Roughly translated this means, think carefully before you speak.
Rather than saying everything that you have on your mind.
- Think carefully... - I don't say things without speaking.
I didn't mean that.
I think it's not a good thing to say everything that I'm thinking.
Have you put a couple of names in the folder?
I can take this much. It's, "So, so".
Today we're talking about expressing one's opinions.
Please raise your hand if famous people in your country say whatever they want.
Do they or don't they?
If they do, please raise your hand. In 1, 2 and 3.
- It's the US and Pakistan. - Lots of US celebrities say whatever they want.
They do say whatever they want.
In the US, we talk about our free right to speak a lot.
Celebrities and singers have no fear...
and express their opinions about politics.
One fascinating issue that has arisen is,
they do play songs at campaign rallies.
So, Trump played Queen's "We Are the Champions" or a song by Adele at his rallies.
(During the presidential election, Trump played a variety of songs.)
- The singers actually told him to not use their songs. - Right.
- Adele told him not to play her songs. - Don't play my songs without my permission.
"I don't like you."
The songs Trump could play started to become very limited.
- There were no songs Trump could use, right? - Yes.
- They could do it because they didn't have to fear retaliation. - Right.
It's the same in Italy as well.
You can freely make comments about anything.
You can criticize the president and national assembly men as much as you like.
- Hold on. - Yu-ri quietly just remarked,
"They can freely say anything, so why are their politicians such a mess?"
Your country allows you to say anything,
so why is Italian politics such a mess?
I was going to talk about that.
It isn't like that these days.
We did have the freedom to say anything we wanted from a long time ago,
but our politics was only a mess when Silvio Berlusconi was Prime Minister.
A few people disappeared after criticizing him.
Silvio Berlusconi is like a semi-permanent member of our program.
Exactly. People always mention him whenever we talk about politics.
In Mexico, we also have a lot of famous celebrities who are political.
Since Mexican politics has a lot of problems,
the citizens believe that people who know a lot about politics is smart.
A smart person is someone who is very knowledgeable.
- Is there a country that doesn't say a lot about politics? - Here.
Celebrities in France just think of themselves as actors.
That's why our celebrities refrain from speaking out too much.
- Really? France? - France?
One moment that I still remember...
happened around 20 years ago.
- An actress named Emmanuelle Beart, - Emmanuelle.
was being criticized harshly.
She thought to herself, "I'm not being a big help to this protest."
- So, she stopped protesting. - I remember that.
Celebrities in Germany also don't express their opinions a lot either.
That's probably because German celebrities...
are not that influential.
Their comments never become controversial.
- So... - When Greece was struggling,
was there any celebrities that publicly said, "We shouldn't help them"?
There aren't a lot of scenarios like that because German celebrities...
are less influential than celebrities from Hollywood.
They might be expressing their views, it's just no one is paying attention.
They are talking.
It's the same for Canada.
Our celebrities aren't that influential.
They're not famous and what they say never becomes an controversial topic.
- It's not important. - Also, when our celebrities become famous, they go to the US.
It's the same for us.
I think it's the opposite in Japan.
Japanese celebrities have a lot of influence so they have to be neutral.
So, our celebrities try to stay quiet on issues.
When a celebrity says something out of line,
or they discuss a situation that they shouldn't be discussing.
They get criticized online through negative comments.
We say that the celebrity has been lit on fire with negative comments.
In Japan, unsupervised children is a very big issue.
A mother started to write a blog.
The title was, "My daughter was sent to an orphanage, Japan die!"
That blog was lit on fire with supportive comments.
It became really bad.
The government had to change their stance on this subject.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe vowed that he would get rid of this.
Is it that bad?
Yu-ri, what's your opinion about expression opinions in Korea?
In Korea, people try to stop you from expressing your opinions.
The mood is...
That's the kind of mood we have in Korea, so people only say things privately.
- They say it privately or spin it. - Right, we'll say something over drinks.
We don't say comments directly.
We still live in that kind of a world.
Among what the celebrities said, was there anything that made you feel refreshed?
Comments that feel like a breath of fresh air.
Was there any comments like that in your country?
In Japan, it would most likely be...
comments about war.
Comments like that are always lit on fire.
The world renowned director,
Hayao Miyazaki is. You've all heard of him, right?
Hayao?
(I think I heard of him.)
- Gosh! - What?
Do you know him personally?
(Hayao Miyazaki is)
- I see. - Anyway.
(I get it.)
Studio Ghibli has a magazine that they release.
He wrote an article about war in there.
He said that we have to apologize to Korea and China.
We have to apologize and compensate them for their suffering.
It became very controversial.
Hayao Miyazaki is well-known for being a right-wing supporter.
I hated him but after hearing that he wrote that,
- I do feel a little shocked. - He is a conservative.
I don't know about that. When you read the article,
it is a conservative's view point.
- It feels like he is romanticizing it. - Yes.
But as you read further, he starts to show a more liberal viewpoint in the piece.
Many Hollywood actresses,
- talk about feminism. - Right.
It's really cool that they are standing up for that and I do respect them.
For example, Cate Blanchett went to an awards ceremony,
and she to stand on the red carpet, right?
The cameramen always moves the camera like this.
They start from the bottom and move up. They need to show the dress.
But Cate Blanchett coolly asked,
She asked whether they do the same thing to the guys.
- I just want to ask, do you do that to the guys? - Yes.
It's a thing, that's just...
It wasn't just Cate Blanchett.
Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Winslet...
also discuss feminist viewpoints.
They ask why actresses get paid less than actors...
or they ask why movies are examined differently.
They make well-thought up comments.
Has there ever been a case where someone criticized...
your country's leaders and got attacked for it?
In China, there was a CCTV news announcer named Bi Fujian.
At a private gathering, he sang a song and criticized Mao Zedong.
The person next to him took a video and posted it online.
A lot of people saw the video and he was thrown out of the company.
- And he was no longer seen on TV. - Why would they upload that?
Right. I don't know what his friend was thinking.
In Mexico, we had a very famous photographer...
who reported a lot about the corruption.
His name was Ruben Espinoza.
He was murdered very recently.
According to the investigation,
in an apartment he was discovered killed with three other women he worked with.
They were all shot in the head.
Before he was killed, his hands and feet were tied, and he was tortured.
The women had been sexually assaulted as well.
Was he an investigative journalist?
- Yes. - He was famous in Mexico.
In Italy, we had someone like that, although he has passed away now.
He was the face of journalism in Italy.
His name was Enzo Biagi. He was an intellectual.
He had a program that was aired nightly.
On the program he freely talked about subjects for 30 minutes.
He had a viewer rating of 28 percent.
Over 8 million people would tune in to watch his program.
On one of these episodes, Enzo Biagi...
started to criticize Silvio Berlusconi.
After that he had disappeared.
It was a program with a 30 percent rating.
According to the broadcasting station,
his fee was too much. We couldn't afford to pay him.
Enzo Biagi apparently said, "I'll forfeit my fee."
"I'll do this for free."
- Even when he said that, they refused. - Really?
He got fired just like that.
Back in 2010, the US was at war with Afghanistan.
There was a very high ranking military officer.
He was a very high ranking general.
In an interview for a Rolling Stone's article.
He criticized the administration's strategy for the war.
President Obama read it and fired him.
Well...
- Freedom of speech? - What happened to that?
You have to be careful.
It's not an issue when our celebrities make political statements.
However the army is different.
President Obama is the commander-in-chief.
This person has to follow the orders that President Obama gives him.
He was criticized and then fired.
I met the Swiss President a few months ago, right?
The reason I did this was,
because I think it's more correct to say that Switzerland has seven presidents.
The person is just the presiding member of the seven-member Swiss Federal Council.
And they change every year.
- It's a rotation. - Is that so?
The power is divided up,
so there is no disadvantage politically.
If the citizens don't like a politician or the president, we can just have a vote.
They can just vote him out.
The president changes every year?
- Yes. - But, wouldn't that mean they'd just fight and get nothing done?
- Don't they fight? - Don't they?
They don't. Politics in Switzerland is boring.
- That's a good thing. - It's boring because they don't fight.
That means there are no problems.
The president I met a few months ago,
will be replaced by one of the other seven members in few months time.
- Is his term over? - Is it over already?
But as I said before,
the president doesn't have more political power than the other members.
It's just...
Have any of you been criticized for openly saying something?
When I was in university, my parents had a big fight.
They almost got a divorce.
Like in a drama, my mom said,
"We're going to divorce. Who do you want to live with?"
- "Do you want to live with me or your dad?" - They're sensitive.
- However, - Did you honestly say it?
Yes, I told her my honest opinion.
I told her that I wanted to live with Dad.
I said, "Dad gets paid more than you do."
- I said... - Gosh!
It was the truth.
- It was the truth. - Xinlin.
- He has a lot of interest in money. - Anyway,
"Dad can give me pocket money until I finish my doctorate studies."
"So, I think it would be better for me to live with Dad."
Mom was so shocked when I said that.
She still calls me a traitor to this day.
- Traitor. - Traitor.
That's why you can't say everything you want.
- Xinlin... - No, I think you just have to be good at reading the situation.
- Timing. - You also need to be good at picking sides.
If your mom asks, you have to be on her side. When your dad asks, your on his side.
In high school, my English teacher had terrible pronunciations.
- McDonalds. - Yes, the teacher would pronounce the words like that.
The English teacher?
At that time, I needed to learn English.
I went to complain.
I asked him to pronounce the words properly.
- Gosh! - You really said that.
- Amazing. - I also asked for homework.
A very scary Japanese language teacher was right next to him.
He said there was nothing we could do about that and told me to leave.
(He got kicked out at the speed of light.)
I was so afraid that I left.
In the end, the teacher didn't change.
I also had a Latin teacher at our school.
But the teacher would only get us to translate.
- That's all we did. - That's what Latin is like.
I was furious,
so on the window I wrote a scathing criticism of the teacher.
"Latin is a culturally beautiful language. I want to learn more about it."
"Why are you only making us translate?"
When the teacher was evaluating us, she didn't let it bother her.
If you have opinions like Alberto, please just tell me.
- That's even scarier. - She didn't let it bother her.
After the semester was over,
she gave me a very low score on the attitude section.
- She does hold a grudge. - That score...
also affected my overall College Scholastic Ability Test score.
This is also a story about my school. I was taking a test,
it was so hard that in a loud voice I shouted, "This is too hard!"
The teacher said, "You're finding it hard because you didn't study."
I muttered, "How can you say that when you didn't even teach us properly."
The teacher told me to come out.
He was angry. He told me to come out.
He was very famous for being very good at chess.
He always carried with him a chess board.
I challenged him to a chess match.
- Why would you do that? - Just out of the blue?
- That was out of the blue. - Why?
- Let's have a chess match instead of doing a test? - Instead of the test.
We made a bet on the outcome.
If I win, I'll receive an A plus throughout the year.
If I lose, I'd have to repeat the year.
- You made that bet? - Yes.
I was lucky and I won.
- So, for the whole year I received A pluses for the class. - No way.
I think there's a problem with that.
How did that happen?
There was a reason why I won.
My uncle is the national chess champion of Mexico.
Did you call him on your cellphone while you played?
- Okay. - No.
My uncle taught me.
Yu-ri, have you ever suffered because you were too honest?
Yes, that's happened to me a lot.
- I think I've seen a few of those. - They are famous.
Around 10 years ago when I had just started to work as a voice actor.
The company would say something like,
"Since this is for the company, let's do it at a cheaper price."
Let's do it at a cheaper price.
I said okay. I didn't even know how much they'd pay me. I started to work,
and I realized they were paying me too little.
- I was making a loss. - It cost more to get there.
Yes, it was like that.
I'm sorry to say this,
but I think this a little too harsh.
- I asked them to pay me more next time. They said okay. - Okay.
I came back the next time to do this but the pay was still the same.
So, I went up to the team leader and said,
"I'm sorry but I can't work if you're only paying me this much."
After I said that, I didn't have a role for two months.
- They were bullying you. - So for two months, I had no work.
I just sat in the office answering phone calls.
I wasn't wrong to say that,
and I thought to myself, "Why do I have to accept these conditions?"
If you want to avoid harsh words, you have to say things you don't mean.
When you work, you sometimes have to try and flatter other people.
We'd like to ask your opinions on this.
To further your career, do you think flattery is necessary?
Or it's not necessary?
Do you think flattery is necessary?
To survive. In 1, 2 and 3.
Zahid, Xinlin and Mark says it is necessary.
Whether you are in the US or Korea,
office politics exists wherever you go.
It's not good if you ignore that.
If I want to succeed,
I need to know who the powerful players are in the office.
I need to know this, so I can get promoted.
You should also eat with your superiors to get closer.
- That's not a bad thing. - Flattery and having a meal is different.
That's a poor example. When we think of flattery...
"Goodness! President!" That's what we call flattery.
- This is flattery. - You have to rub your hands.
I didn't know what this was before.
In Japan, we do this.
We have a saying that roughly translates to, grind the sesame seeds.
- Yes. - Sesame seeds.
When you eat tonkatsu at a restaurant, you grind sesame seeds, right?
- I see. - In English, we refer to that as kissing up.
- Kissing up. - It's a term we use to describe flattering.
But rather than that, if you can navigate through office politics well.
Hyun-moo, you used the word "loyal dog".
So we thought Mark would understand if you showed him.
- "Mark." - Yes?
- "It's nice to meet you. I watch you every week." - Thank you.
- "Wow. He's..." - What?
"the most handsome American I've ever seen."
- Me? Really? - "I'm not kidding."
"I've never met an American that good-looking before."
"He doesn't just have a good-looking face."
"I saw Mark in the bathroom,"
"and I was so surprised."
(I was so surprised.)
- Let's stop it. - Is that so?
You're far too kind.
(I am Mark Tetto.)
I think he really liked what you said.
"Your black hair is just flawless."
You are too kind.
Most of the people here have not worked at a company yet. He's a director.
Everyone would flatter the deputy head so much. It was crazy.
I had to order tteokbokki all the time.
Everyone would just eat.
However if a director orders the food.
"As expected, the director always picks the best place."
(This is how you do it.)
- He's good. - He must have done it a lot.
- He's good. - Did you see his eyes?
- When did he learn that? - "You're a connoisseur of food."
- What kind connoisseur of food is that? - He just ordered tteokbokki.
This must be from a three-star Michelin restaurant.
People who flatter too much...
- seem to be people who have no talent. - Right.
- They probably are bad at their job. - No, that's not true.
It's because they are not good enough at their job.
- He's the expert on flattery. - Flattery is an art, too.
- Flattery is a skill, too. - That's right.
- That's right. - If you are working in trade,
and you don't know how to flatter, it will be difficult for you.
Although it may not look good,
if you do it well, you can become very successful.
With me, you can see it on my face whether I like it or not.
I'm really bad at flattery.
Niklas is the same as me. Do you remember?
- Oh, you mean back then? - What happened?
We had to go to a meeting with our manager.
Before we went in, our manager told us to flatter the president.
He asked us to do that.
He said that this was a very, very important meeting.
We walked in.
We told it was an honor and how much we had waited for a chance to meet him.
- We flattered him so much. - We kept flattering him.
We went overboard.
As I was saying that to him,
I felt like I was going to vomit.
But the president of the company just coolly said,
He looked at us and said, "You two don't want to be here, right?"
- He could tell we didn't mean it. - They got caught.
- That's what happened. - They must have been poor actors.
You must have been really bad.
After we got caught,
we could converse with him in a easier manner.
- It became very comfortable for us. - Is that so?
What I'd like to say about this is,
in a corrupt system, if I want to gain something...
and I can't attain it with my capability. Then I can use money to get it.
I think flattery is the same.
Like the Kim Young-ran Act, I think you need a law to stop excessive flattery.
- You need a law to stop flattery. - This is a skill.
Niklas and Christian made a mistake before because they didn't know how to do it.
There's a word about it in Pakistan, which is called "maska".
It means butter.
So if you butter someone, you can get closer to someone.
You butter up someone to get closer.
It's like oiling.
So there's a culture of flattery since we have that word.
You can't achieve success in society with business capabilities only.
It's called business politics, but flattery is inevitable.
In France, someone who flatters is called "leche-bottes".
- What is that? - It means...
to lick a lollipop, right?
It means someone who licks.
(Flattery is deemed negative in France.)
You lick someone's boots.
- There's a worse word, but it's not appropriate. - Don't do it.
(Quiet)
French don't really praise a lot.
When we get praised, we're very flustered.
People don't like getting praised that much.
- I see. - That's what they think.
I should praise Aurélien a lot.
No, I'd be flustered.
- He likes it. - Isn't he a player?
He's trying to get praised.
Now, there must be jobs where they can't express themselves freely.
In the US, there's an organization called 501C3.
This refers schools, churches,
and cathedrals. They are legally exempt from taxes.
In exchange,
they are not allowed to act politically.
If they announce any political opinions,
they will be unqualified for 501C3.
Then they have to pay all taxes.
Also in the US, Supreme Court judges are not allowed...
to openly take political sides. They have to stay neutral.
Every year, the president makes a New Year's speech.
During this New Year's speech,
the Republican party can clap if they like something about the speech.
The Democratic party can do the same and clap.
But the Supreme Court judges...
have to stay expressionless.
"Right now we're on track to end the scourge..."
"of HIV aids. That's within our grasps."
"And we have the chance..."
"to accomplish the same thing with malaria."
(Democrat and Republican)
(Among the applause,)
(the judges stay calm)
They can't express political opinions.
It's ironic in Mexico.
There's a job that isn't allowed free speech.
- It's a reporter. - What?
- Reporters don't have freedom of speech? - They don't.
When they write articles,
a reporter must not include their own opinion.
If they include their opinions, they could get assassinated.
There's a high danger of assassination.
It's especially serious in North Mexico.
Being a reporter is considered to be dangerous.
In France, army personnel are restricted...
from expressing opinions.
In 2008...
a general said that if the current army stays as is,
it will be degraded just like the Italian army.
(Are you talking about us?)
What about the Italian army?
- Why are you poking someone who's quiet? - We're doing well these days.
Is that like how Tang Dynasty army is laughed at in Korea?
In Europe, it's right.
- But our army is the most handsome. - Right.
People think the Italian army is the worst.
- You think so too, right? - Even in Germany?
We think loving is more important...
than war.
(Italy, the country of love)
- That's true. - He's beaming.
Then what army is considered good in Europe?
Swiss.
(What?)
(We are neutral because we are so strong.)
(A powerful army that maintained peace for 500 years.)
In China, celebrities have to be...
careful about their opinions.
They have to carefully choose their words.
For example, Taiwanese must not say they are departing to China.
- Taiwanese? - Yes.
They have to say they are traveling inland.
They have to choose their words like that if they want to work in China.
- They can't say they're going to China? - No.
They're are going inland,
because Taiwan is not considered a separate country.
Say a Taiwanese celebrity...
mentions departing to China.
Then that person is banned from working for years.
There must be a list. They are very sensitive.
In Japan, news anchors are not allowed...
to express their opinions.
They must stay politically neutral.
They cannot express any political side.
This might not be appropriate, but it was boring for me. - That does sound boring.
Is there nobody like Sohn Suk-hee?
There was.
He strongly criticized the government,
but he suddenly announced resignation.
I thought Anchor Sohn was praised in Japan.
The morning news was crazy about him.
They reported about JTBC and the anchor and president, Sohn Suk-hee.
The panels were surprised...
that he was 60 years old.
He's 60 years old?
Is he 60 years old?
He's such a handsome man.
Also, high school teachers need to...
stay neutral.
The voting age was lowered to 18 years of age.
They have to teach politics to high school students,
but the government notified teachers.
Stay neutral.
- I think that's important. - I agree.
In that age, you just accept things as you're told instead of judging them properly.
As you said,
our country is also controversial about the political opinions of teachers...
as much as news reporters.
Recently, educators all over the country made a declaration.
The Department of Education did express that it was a violation of policy.
The Department mentioned disciplinary action for those who are guilty.
Let's see how people think about an educator's political opinion.
Educators should be allowed to express political opinions.
Educators can express political opinions in 1, 2, 3.
(Educators should express political opinions.)
- They can teach children. - Mark.
I wasn't taught like that in Japan.
I think I became more indifferent to politics.
(Right!)
If educators don't talk about it, students don't think about it.
If the teacher starts to express things...
regardless of the opinion, it begins a discussion.
I think that sparks interest in students.
It makes them think about it deeply.
I used to think politics...
was so boring.
Although I'm having a lot of fun thanks to Trump these days.
If you pay a bit more attention, you can have fun.
Talk about politics to children,
then they will vote as well.
I think it encourages interest.
What Guillaume is saying is...
people will take interest if they talk about politics.
If you take a class in politics,
they can discuss about Trump's or Hillary's speech.
They can explain both sides without their own opinion.
I think the facts should be delivered without a side.
Many schools in the US are run by States.
Teachers are a public servant of that State.
They shouldn't say...
whether they support the Democratic or Republican party.
The States has their reasons.
In Italy,
each teacher expresses his or her political opinion.
There is nothing such as a neutral opinion.
This is especially true about history.
A neutral opinion is in fact the opinion of the government.
A neutral opinion comes from the information that is released.
High school students are not stupid.
- They have their own thoughts. - Teachers may be correct,
but I can listen and look for information on my own too.
I have a different opinion.
We don't have middle school, and we go straight to high school.
We are 9 or 10 at that age.
We don't have any opinions then.
What's important is that the teacher must not openly show their political side.
- It's the same for religion. - Religion?
For example, I would take philosophy classes.
The teacher would always say...
Nietzsche is the best philosopher.
Nietzsche is the only one!
That was our first class in philosophy.
Later, when a different teacher came...
we would always argue with Nietzsche.
Nietzsche is the best.
We are easily influenced at a young age.
(A teacher's opinion is absolute.)
That teacher taught problematically.
The teacher should be more humble.
- Be more humble. - Humble?
- That's not it. - Hold on!
Hold on. You can have opinions...
different from me.
It's my opinion,
but it's up to you to decide...
whether it's right or wrong.
I grew up...
in a very conservative area.
I spent all my school life there.
I grew up to be conservative...
even without realizing it.
I realized that when I became an adult.
When I think about it now,
I think educators should...
definitely stay neutral for students.
- But you realized the difference because you grew up like that. - Yes.
If there is no opinion, you won't realize anything.
Listening to the teacher at school will surely influence you.
But if you're really interested in politics,
you need to listen to other opinions.
(Other people?)
Hearing from a teacher and...
hearing from another person is different.
We trust our teachers.
We learn from them and trust them.
Then what about your parents?
- He's talking. - Hold on.
- Listen to me. - Trust is not...
Look here.
If a teacher expresses something in Canada or France,
they can begin a discussion.
They can talk about opposite opinions.
In our country, the teacher's words are absolute.
I can turn off the television if I don't like it.
But we can't turn off the teacher.
After listening to Zahid and Yu-ri...
if you listen only to one opinion,
the students think it's boring.
They don't learn much, either.
It's important to listen to various opinions.
But a teacher could be directed...
by a politician about what to say.
- There's no end to evil doing, anyway. - But we have to think of those possibilities as well.
We have to make them discuss things.
- Students need to discuss. - Discussing a lot...
Do students these days discuss things?
It's getting better these days.
- The number of students decreased, too. - Yes.
Back in our days...
- We had discussion classes. - The books always ended with...
"Let's discuss together!"
I think it's the path to being an outcast.
For example, why don't we discuss this matter?
- Does that make sense? - We would just memorize everything instead of listening.
I think discussing would be good for us.
Any last opinions here?
Anyone who has a statement?
Wang Xinlin raised his hand first.
Wang Xinlin, you still have something to say?
(Wang Xinlin is full of statements.)
What's Wang Xinlin's statement?
What I want to say to friends from other countries is...
China has the largest population.
Please don't have prejudice against Chinese people.
Also, I want to say something to Chinese friends.
Please don't judge other countries...
by their size or population.
All countries are equal.
Don't judge whether one is small or large.
I have two things to say.
I have something to say for smokers.
Please don't smoke on the streets.
I think the government should prepare...
proper smoking booths as well. One more thing.
It's now the flu season.
If you're sick,
please wear masks.
What kind of statement is this?
I have a request for Non Summit Meeting.
Please stop giving us sandwiches during break time.
That's a statement.
I'm sorry but that's the cheapest thing.
It's so soggy, fat, and difficult to eat.
- I get it all over my clothes. - It gets on my mouth.
Yes, there too.
(We reflected your suggestions in no time.)
(Is it my turn now?)
You write on Twitter at the same time.
I did do that sometimes.
We pay a lot of taxes.
I hope the country would make...
me feel proud when paying taxes.
I wish this was a country...
where my taxes were spent properly ...
for the people in need.
Don't give them to silly foundations.
(Harsh truth)
What foundation do you mean?
I don't know.
That was a statesmen from the French.
The 127th topic by Seo Yu-ri...
was about expressing opinions freely.
I think Korea is desperately in need of a cutting remark at this time.
Say what you want.
Listen if you can.
A fast horse which deserves a prize should win it.
(Whining)
You're imitating a horse.
I hope Yu-ri will freely express her opinions,
and the world changes to accept that.
(Whining)
Now, how do you feel about being here?
Actually, I was quite nervous.
This was so fun. Can I come back?
Come back.
Also, what I found the most impressive today was...
- this person sitting next to me. - Xinlin?
Yes.
I thought Chinese men were very sweet,
kind, nice, and considerate. That's what I heard.
It's my first time meeting such a unique person.
I'll always remember you.
(His uniqueness is so impressive, he won't be forgotten.)
Why not have the unique Wang Xinlin...
talk about his impressions of Seo Yu-ri?
- Do it in a Chinese style. - Why so suddenly?
- Chinese style? - Be honest.
- Say everything you want. - You're honest.
- Yes. - Look at him.
Actually, I was surprised when you walked in.
You're so different from photos.
What are you saying?
We're adjourned!
(Fainting)
Cuba's leader Fidel Castro died.
He was a legendary leader.
He is also considered a brute tyrant.
I think a good tyrant...
is a very bad leader.
There are many who like him as much as some hate him.
We're not in a position to...
consider him a tyrant or not.
We will have to see how the history will record him.
I'm the world's hottest actor Kim Nam-Gil.
I feel like I'm in another country.
(Korea's best actor and actress, Kim Nam-Gil and Moon Jeong-hee)
(128th topic is "The World's Taboos.")
If you wink,
it means to sleep together.
When Korean people say okay a lot of times,
it means I get it so shut up.
It's difficult because we can't seem too prideful.
When going to a hot spring,
you have to shower before entering.
Touching your lover on the street is not allowed.
I don't want to listen to your fantasies.
(Kim Nam-gil's own taboo)
(What is his embarrassing taboo?)
(On Monday night, taboos will be revealed.)
(Every Monday at 10:50pm)
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